Body building

Chris Cormier Higher Than Flex Wheeler?

by Christian Duque

Bodybuilding is a sport that involves comparisons. The judges check the physique and often comparisons are necessary to determine the placement. There are people who are characterized by shape and condition, others push the mass card and some are so great posers that they can hide every mistake and still appear perfect. The media also love to compare competitors because they provide them with article ideas and program bylines to work with. But the people who love to compare the athletes the most should be the fans.


Whether fans speak at a competition, on the message boards or on social media, comparisons are at the center of most discussions. We have heard that comparing epochs is not a good thing, but fans of every period think that their epochs were the most demanding, theirs the most modern, and theirs the most classic. The truth is that the '90s were damn special for bodybuilding. There was so much going on at the beginning of the decade, in the middle and definitely at the end. The interesting thing about today's article is that, unlike today's bodybuilders' comparison with yesterday's, we're talking about two legends that were basically competing together while both were more or less in their prime. More remarkably, this article was inspired by a comment that Mr. Olympia Dexter "The Blade" Jackson made in 2008 in an interview with Patrick Bet David at Valuetainment. In this video, Jackson claimed that Chris Cormier, also known as The Real Deal, could have been better if he had devoted 100% of his attention to bodybuilding than the Sultan of Symmetry, Flex Wheeler. I bet David was stunned, but why?!?!

This is interesting because there are many similarities and contrasts between Wheeler and Cormier. Chris was a fantastic bodybuilder who lived in Venice Beach, California and received a lion's share of the media. Most younger fans associate him today as the King of Max Muscle, probably because his videos chilling on the couch went viral then and now; However, he fought against the best of the best on stage. He was top 3 at Mr. Olympia, he won the Ironman Pro 4x and was even given the opportunity to train with 6x Mr. Olympia Dorian Yates in the UK. That last note really got around and almost became a folklore of the fitness industry because Dorian thought he could help Cormier win a Sandow. If anyone could push Cormier to the limit, it was believed to be Dorian. That being said, you probably wouldn't believe that a man with a resume as impressive as Cormier would need someone to push him, but that was running theory for him too – and not just for him.

People always talk. The fans mean it well, but often say things that make little or no sense. One of the most heard criticisms of Cormier and Wheeler was that they weren't 100%. That was a point that both fans and the media raised. Still, that means nothing. Media are also notorious for making silly statements, be it in the hope of drawing hits, getting magazine subscriptions, or simply because they may not know better. However, when champions like Dorian Yates and Dexter Jackson express these feelings today, it is definitely food for thought. Still, I'm not entirely convinced.

When Gregg Valentino made programs for IronMag TV, he often spoke about when Dorian Yates went clubbing in NYC. He often talked about how much The Shadow loved to party. If Dorian had had a social life and won six Sandows, could the celebration really have stopped Cormier? This is the part with the whole argument "you didn't give it 100%" that I don't quite understand. What could they have done differently? More trained, heavier, more eaten and / or more dried out? On the other hand, the size of the party that Cormier was supposedly used to was perhaps much more intense or frequent than Dorian's. I can't say for sure simply because I wasn't there, but Dexter was. He not only knows, but is also closely associated with Chris. When he made this statement at Valuetainment, it was certainly not an excavation, if any, it was a compliment. What I found very bizarre is that Bet had to ask David Dexter a second time. It's almost as if he had to be absolutely sure that The Blade meant what he said. That part, I thought, was a little weird.

If Chris Cormier were 100% in the prime of Flex Wheeler in his prime, 100% in his prime, I would have to see that they hit any mandatory pose before I could even consider choosing the winner. I would have to assess their transitions, really look at their abdominal sections and maybe ask them to do the work a second time. I don't think it would be an open and closed case for both. This opinion may not be shared by most, but that is the honest opinion of my God. I just don't see Cormier as a major disadvantage alongside Wheeler.


Chris had the structure, the muscles and the ability to really entertain an audience. The guy had a real personality and that's huge in bodybuilding. If you have no sense of humor, if you don't enjoy life to the fullest, then you are bored. Who wants to read your interview? Who will want to cheer you on from the audience? I don't care how impressive the physique of a champion is. If he has nothing else to offer, he won't be a tie. The fans loved Cormier then and now because he had a great physique, but he was also someone you could identify with and want to emulate. Still, I don't think it is held in the same way as Wheeler. I can't really say for sure, but Bet David's reaction to Dexter's assessment speaks directly for it. It may have been strange to see, but it's a feeling shared by many bodybuilding fans.

One reason why Flex would be the obvious choice for many is that, in my opinion, it is actually closer to doing its 100% best. I don't think he ever got there completely, but he got pretty close. As I always said, if I had been a judge, Wheeler would have won the Sandow in 1998, but that wasn't even his best looks – as crazy as it may be. In fact, Ronnie often says, Wheeler was the best competitor he has ever met!

The & # 39; 98 Olympia was Flex & # 39; losing; The whole world saw him as the obvious heir. Maybe he deserved some sympathy points for this defeat. In addition, Wheeler was able to recover from an almost fatal car accident in the early 1990s. I know that fans have a world of respect for it. Check out Roelly Winklaar's motorcycle accident a few years ago. When he got to the gym, he gave it all and got his career back – that's straight out of the Flex Wheeler game book. It is this heart that earned him the NOC and four Arnold Classic titles. Even when he was diagnosed with kidney disease, the guy continued to compete and continued to place very well. I think people's memories of Flex as a fighter against all odds could also help explain why so many would choose him over Cormier, almost without thinking about it.

If both boys reached their true potential, both in their prime, I don't think there would be a clear winner. That being said, we'll never really know, but the debates are part of what makes this sport so fun. In fact, I'm currently doing a poll about this matchup on @StrengthAddicts on Instagram, even when I'm writing this article. I've checked my phone regularly to see where the vote is taking place, and it's pretty much a tie. Flex has maintained a slight lead throughout, but is extremely thin at best. That says a lot; It is really everyone's guess. I mean, how can you compare two bodies at their best without having a single photo of what their best really look like? That is the argument at the heart of this article and why it is so frustrating because both could have been Mr. Olympias !! This is almost comparable to apps that predict what people will look like in old age. At best, it's just a guess with a lot of imagination, and that's ultimately a hypothetical comparison.

So I will ask you, the readers, because your opinion is the most important. Who did you win Both 100%, both in their prime and both standing next to each other in front of you? The Sultan of Symmetry or The Real Deal? There can only be one winner, so who wins?

I hope you enjoyed reading my article here in Iron Magazine. I look forward to reading your feedback in the comments. I suspect that the vast majority who vote in public will feel the need to accompany this vote with an explanation. Like I said, it's not cut and dry, black and white, painfully obvious, as some would think. On the other hand, it may be for you. So who do you choose?

I hope you enjoyed reading this article here in Iron Magazine. I am looking forward to read your comments. Please don't forget to use the discount code IML15 to save 15% at – iincluding the new CBD Gummies !!!

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